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Mate I agree with all that but the fact is they are usually right on the money, especially in sports betting. There wouldn't be too many instances in sports betting where you look at the prices and think they have it totally wrong - hardly ever would you assess a game at home and think - Gee...

Have you seen many poor bookmakers mate? It's a business, they balance their books - on most occasions no matter who wins they win

Plus they were really lucky to get anywhere near us - Norman made his 1 and only mistake for 1 try, Thurston put up a cross field prayer for another and Beale slaughtered a try by trying to run around Williams instead of drawing him and putting Winterstein under the posts. We were so much...

3 - Wallace 2 - Parker 1 - Kenny

Great thread Coxy and an awesome top 10. My 10 is a little bit different - I would probably have; 1. Wayne Bennett - A constant for the first 2 decades and the #1 reason we are the club we are today 2. Paul Morgan 3. Cyril Connell 4. John Ribot 5. Langer 6. Lewis 7. Shane Edwards 8. Lockyer - I...

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It's worked ok for Bart previously - he probably know best. Shocking was enormous but they did crawl up front which helped him see the trip out while sitting 3 deep. Rawiller tried to be too cool on Viewed, probably conscious of his big weight, but he made a mistake sitting quiet while the...

Not sure if Vigor could have won the Cup Gymp but I agree with you 100% about the make up of the field. How can a horse who runs 3rd in the Caulfield Cup be put out of a race by some of these poor excuses for stayers. I reckon there are only 7 horses who are any chance of winning or running a...

With the barrier draw done I think Heart of Dreams is top pick - has really proven himself at weight for age this Spring and is going to get a lovely run right behind the speed. Have to respect Whobe but as said above from a punting perpsective you can't be jumping on now at $2.40 when you could...

I just don't think Cest La Guerre is as good as Lloyd says he is - Alcopop is shorter in the market because he is in better form. There is no way he is a doubt at the 3200 and he has better staying form than CLG. I don't buy the "not proven at 3200m" argument - reality is that we only run 3...

How can you say Speed Gifted and Alcopop are just "hype" horses and have Master O and Cest La Guerre in your only 4 winning chances for the cup? Neither Master O or Cest La Guerre have won a race in 2 years - both horses continue to suck punters in - running home late for 6th or 7th but in...

Not a vintage Caulfield Cup by any means but my 2 cents worth. I don't think it will be a bog track, Caulfield dries out really quickly so all horses should get their chance. I think there are only a few winning chances; Daffodil - Donkey licked them in the Oaks last year and has trained on to...

That's pretty harsh mate - we have unearthed some great kids this year in Glenn, Yow Yeh, Winterstein and McCullough. We were also starting to see some really good things from Setu, T'eo and Sims at the back end of the year. It's a real shame to go out after a great 7 weeks but plenty of things...

3 - Thaiday 2 - Glenn 1 - McCullough

3. Hunt 2. Sims 1. Thaiday

3 - Hodges 2 - Sims 1 - Wallace

3 - Thaiday 2 - Wallace 1 - Hunt

Mate I'm not exactly sure what you mean here - All I am saying is that when people have tried to bag NSW crowds in the past Rock always brings up arguments like 1 team is running last so that is ok. I reckon it is great to see over 30,000 for a club game in NSW, especially on a Friday night. I...

12,042 was the crowd at the only game in Qld Rock - You can't get an average from 1 game mate Plus it was against the bottom team in the comp and according to you it is ok to get sh!t crowds against sh!t teams

Gee that was a sweet victory - Dragons were humbled by us tonight, we dominated them from start to finish and have put the rest of the comp on notice that we are back in 2009! So many great performances - young Macca was enormous in the middle, Locky controlled the game brilliantly and guys...