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Message: [QUOTE="Black Philip, post: 2246071, member: 8780"] We have lost under Pim and we've played some pretty crap football under him too. We do have the quality when at full strength to play fluently and with structure, Pim often seems to lack the ability to get us playing like that though. And in regards to getting us to only our 3rd world cup, look at our current crop of players and consider that we are now qualifying through Asia. It's no big shock that we were able to qualify again. What he has done so far has worked but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a good manager. IMO he's gonna get found out big time at the world cup against the bigger teams geared up for the tournament. And yes ning, Holman is a **** donkey. [/QUOTE]

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