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Message: [QUOTE="Black Philip, post: 2453230, member: 8780"] [b]Re: 12/13 Football Thread[/b] In terms of quality and talent? God no. In terms of experience? Well he wouldn't be far away. He has played for one of the biggest clubs in Europe, played Champions league football, played at major international tournaments and has won the FA and UEFA cups. But he is grouped together with them here based on the fact that they are high profile signings by the A-league made in reasonably quick succession. Ballack was lazy at times at Chelsea if I remember correctly. And his discipline was lacking at times, but that being said... he's German. How ill-disciplined can a German really be? [/QUOTE]

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