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Message: [QUOTE="Super Freak, post: 2953740, member: 8536"] It was both of them, I believe. Ferdinand would even speak about not having much to do with Lampard because he didn't want him to learn anything that he can implement in his own game to win against him. It's a shame the egos got so out of control in that side, they had a fucking good side on paper. They should have won a World Cup during their time. But it just got so out of control. That's why I don't think this England side will have the same fate as them. They seem very focused, including the management, on making sure it doesn't happen again. [/QUOTE]

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