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Message: [QUOTE="Thelmus, post: 2991554, member: 8988"] Walters was a great player and gave more in effort than Milford or knik, but he was still terrible. I think he got better after gilmeister worked with him (gilmeister was a wonderful club man, he did that whilst playing), but he was still ordinary compared to his peers. Langer though was excellent and showed what determination and effort could do. My point has been lost but I was simply pointing out that defensive aren't decisive in the quality of halves. It's far more important they create opportunity for those around them in attack. Knik I believe does that. He just needs to do it consistently, especially when the team is flat. [/QUOTE]

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