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Message: [QUOTE="Wolfie, post: 3462432, member: 8770"] As i said, winning the world cup makes no difference, that doesn't elevate him to the best player the game has seen. You might think he is the best of all time, plenty who have seen a lot more football and a lot more of some of the greatest players ever will disagree, and i dont think anyone can be wrong because you just cant measure it. My Dad for example, has seen pretty much every single player in the debate for the GOAT in person since the likes of Di Stefano and Puskas right the way up to Messi and now Mbappe and he still to this day considers George Best better than the lot of them and was doing the kind of things we see the modern day greats back in the 60's and 70's. Myself, i'd pick somebody like Maldini. In his position, he's every bit as good as any player thats ever played the game and did it at the top level until he was 41, absolutely incredible. As for Ronaldo's achievements not being on Messi's level, you have to be kidding. Apart from the world cup, what hasnt he won? Major trophies in 3 countries and won the Euros with Portugal ( another debate, but arguably a tougher tournament than the world cup as there are way less " filler " teams involved ). I dont think he is as skillfull as Messi, but he's evolved himself from a top class winger into a top class striker. I still cant stand the bloke though! [/QUOTE]

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