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Message: [QUOTE="The True King, post: 3462676, member: 9651"] This whole point is why it's great he carried Argentina to the World Cup. For too long people have criticised Messi's achievements at Barca because of the team he had. Clutching at straws now that he's broken that hoodoo and won a major trophy with another team. Not just once, but twice. Wonder what you'll roll out if he wins the UCL with Paris. I'm guessing the old "oh but the team around him is so good" excuse. Your point above re: titles and stats are basically the only thing we have to judge a players greatness. You can prefer to watch whoever you want (he wouldn't be in my top 20 favourite players either) but the numbers don't lie, Messi is unequivocally the greatest footballer to have lived. [/QUOTE]

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