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Message: [QUOTE="Organix, post: 3148973, member: 8187"] I stand by it, tbh. He was able to draw the quality out of the players even though they weren't the best. This is why Henjak and Griffin both failed. They're both decent coaches but were being undermined behind the scenes and didn't have the same level of respect as Wayne. They were fortunate to still have some players whose pride would not let them lose consistently (Lockyer, Parker, Thaiday) but also had to deal with some players whose ego had them pushing back on the coach and his decisions (Parker, Thaiday) which undermined the coach and led to poor performances and ultimately the coach lost his job. When Wayne was having poor performances slip in it seemed to me that he was losing his drive. Certain players were playing on big money and they were not going to be dropped on poor performance. James Roberts was and still is a nightmare to coach. He has so much potential but suffers from mental issues and is obviously not capable of remaining focused. I think Wayne's biggest flaw can be seen here and that is that he sees troubled young men and wants to draw out the best in them, but it is a long process and means that he can't be too hard on them for fear of something worse. Boyd and Roberts both have played fantastic football under Wayne but they are also enabled by Wayne. They lack the mentality of someone such as Lockyer, Thorn or Webcke whose attitude under pressure is to fight back and don't stop fighting, whereas Roberts and Boyd flip flop between having a crack, dropping their head and just going absent. Milford does this too. I think Wayne was just capable of drawing out the fighter in the team better than the other coaches have been. By that I mean that when one or two individuals in the team is dropping their heads, the rest of the team were able to keep focused. But now it's 3 or 4 individuals dropping their heads at a bad call and the rest of the team loses the fighter attitude. Unfortunately, now the players with bad attitude are also senior players whose influence is very important to our success. Those with poor resilience are now Boyd and Milford who seem to run to mummy after a game and undermine the coach (untouchable). Macca was also bad, but he at least reverted to tackle bot mode. The young guys also have it to some extent, but I don't blame them for following the lead of those who should know better. Probably the only 2 who are fighting right now are Carrigan, a very young player, and TPJ whose fighting back often leads him to make bad decisions resulting in suspension. Anyway, Wayne was able to at least get >50% good performance from these troublesome players by pairing them with someone resilient or giving them the appearance of responsibility and trust. [/QUOTE]

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