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Message: [QUOTE="Jedhead, post: 3156898, member: 9518"] I agree. Having confirmed that though many a time the simple solution stares you in the face and it seems too obvious that it gets discarded as being too reductive. Often a failing group will also obfuscate and throw up a plethora of strawmen in an attempt to baffle people with bullshit. In a results driven sport/industry/organisation those For and Against charts and winning percentages do not paint a complex problem here. It points unequivocally to abject systemic failure. [/QUOTE]

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