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Message: [QUOTE="Thelmus, post: 3003184, member: 8988"] I admire the sentiment behind it, but there has to be someone better than Cortes to use as a never say die attitude. He wasn't exactly the kind of guy that I'd want leading my expedition or a football club either. Besides, the ship burning is likely a myth and wasn't accepted as a fact until some 250 years later. The conquistadors have been somewhat distorted by history, with their reputations first lionized and then admonished. Then again, most historical figures have had the same done and it gets worse the further back you go. Alexander is a classic example, where his victories are celebrated and the deaths behind them ignored. Better to find context within the society you live in. Fred Hollows is a great example of a man facing death and staring it down for the betterment of others, Bernie Banton another. They understood the greater work lay beyond personal gain, to the betterment of others. A sporting context could surely be found in the histories of the Broncos, with lockyer playing with a busted shoulder to guide his team home, knowing he won't play in the subsequent. Upon reflection though, it's hard to make them into 3-word slogans. [/QUOTE]

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