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Message: [QUOTE="Renegade, post: 2588164, member: 1928"] I guess for me I don't really care. I don't hold athletes up as some sort of role model or beacon of virtue, they're there to entertain me and that's that. There are grubs on every team that go out to get the upperhand on others in an underhanded manner, maybe not as malicious as what you're comparing but where do you draw the line? I don't think coaches actively send their players out to hurt the opposition, and the fact that other clubs were caught and penalized for the crusher, the chicken wing, the prowler, whatever they called that knee into the calf manoeuvre, shows that it's not just limited to one coach or club. None of this means I don't have ethics or don't believe in sportsmanship on a personal level, but at the end of the day I'm only in it to be entertained, not to sit in my ivory tower and admire the sportsmanship of my side - I don't get anything out of that. He was cleared by an independent investigation. You're basically saying you know more than the guys hired to get the bottom, which is silly and you know it. Let's face it, Bellamy could take every test under the sun and pass with flying colours re: the salary cap scandal and there are some people that still wouldn't accept it for various reasons. I'd prefer to believe the official word on it then fabricating something to reaffirm my own opinion. At least you can recognize that despite having a dislike for the guy, both of them for that matter. You can dislike whomever you want, but ignoring the achievements of them purely because of a personal grudge is simply immature. Also, no one was going to beat Qld when Bellamy was coaching, it wouldn't of mattered who they selected, I don't think that should count against him (especially if you consider that 3 of the big 4 would've been on Qld during that time). [/QUOTE]

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