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Message: [QUOTE="Super Freak, post: 3438037, member: 8536"] At no point have Bellamy, Ivan and Robinson accepted scraping into the finals. Their teams may have done so, but they did not accept that. They didn't see that season as a success because of it. It's top 4 and a premiership every year, that's their goal. Because they have the attitude you need to win premierships. To be a premiership heavyweight, you need maintained success so no it's impossible to become one in a single season. But there's a long history of teams finishing around the bottom of the ladder and making the top 4 the following season and being a genuine threat. There's one QLD team currently doing that, it's not us. If you guys want to accept scraping into the 8 because the Raiders left their run too late, be my guest. But I keep hearing excuses in this thread that are quite frankly, rubbish. [/QUOTE]

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