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Message: [QUOTE="john1420, post: 3438106, member: 2077"] Nobody is throwing a party for scraping into the 8. Nobody is saying scraping into the 8 is acceptable long term. It's a pass mark for this year and this year only, considering the team has been literally in the cellar the last 2 years. This year, making the 8 in any form is a clear improvement, but not improving again next year will not be acceptable. Honestly mate you make it sound like if we keep scraping into the 8 every year we'll all be delighted. But it's just not true. We demand better than being week 1 cannon fodder. But most of us are happy to give a pass mark to a season where there has been strong improvement, but the improvement must continue. [/QUOTE]

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