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Message: [QUOTE="john1420, post: 3269763, member: 2077"] Do you mean specifically this year, or just our general benchmark? Coz if you mean general benchmark I'm with you, top 8 or failure. But if you're talking about this year, the year following a wooden spoon and the worst season in the clubs history with just 3 wins from an entire season, where the team showed basically no heart ever, and then this year given the hardest draw in the comp, then I have to disagree. There's a place somewhere between last year's nightmare and the top 8, a stepping stone from 1 to the other, that this year should be given a pass mark. [/QUOTE]

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