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Message: [QUOTE="BroncsFan, post: 3503110, member: 9052"] He's a good player in the role that he's doing at the moment, but we have Kobe fulfilling that role. I think Havili is the better player in that role for Souths... he played 22 games last year vs Sele's 11... and he played 38mins compared to Sele's 28mins. The two get compared because they have a similar stature, but Havili was a game changer for Demetriou last year when he started using him as a lock/prop. At the moment coaches everywhere are looking for the robust mobile middle forward that can keep the roll on through the middle, but I wonder if there is a tipping point as to how many you can carry in a 17 each week. Cows had Granville and Cotter out there last night vs knights who had Gamble and Mann playing as lock, and there were definitely a lot of meters to be had on both sides. So as much good as they bring in generating momentum and getting meters, I'm wondering if there is also a lack of starch in defence and conceding meters. Even last year I think the broncos at one point against dragons had a middle of Kobe, Gamble and Willison on the field at once... we won the game easily, but from memory when we had that middle rotation on the field it did not go well. I think at the moment small forwards are the rage and they definitely have their purpose, but I'm not sure how many a team can carry in the 17 each week before it starts to become a liability defensively. Sele can definitely fill a role as a squad member, but does it still work if we end up with him and Kobe in the team at the same time due to injuries, suspensions, etc. [/QUOTE]

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