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Message: [QUOTE="kimlo_, post: 2080900, member: 1959"] I never compared SBW to Johnson to start with. I used SBW as an example not as a comparison of the more effective player. Then you said you would rather johnson when i never really mentioned anything about who I would prefer. I merely stated SBW pulls off more bell ringers as an example. I would prefer SBW in my team but this debate is not about that, Tonnie carroll is a better player than johnson IMHO. It's just that your stating clear errors of fact "I've seen Johnson pull off plenty of bell-ringers and they get bigger when he's playing Origin. Remember Brett White? Bleeding nose in his first hit up ever in State of Origin thanks to Johnson." When it was not johnson, but anyhow he is a good player none the less. [/QUOTE]

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