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Darrren Lockyer - Immortal?
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[QUOTE="lynx000, post: 2201395, member: 2065"] Hi all, just thought I would kick off the debate about Lockyer's career. There was a lot of talk south of the border about Andrew Johns and whether he should have been made one of the immortals even a short period after he retired. I don't mean to get on the Johns v. Langer or Johns v. Lockyer bandwagon, but using him as a good comparison point, it would seem to me (through my maroon and yellow eyes) that Lockyer would be more deserving of being the next one to join the immortals (when he retires). I know there are statistics, statistics and damned lies, but when you compare their two careers, I believe Darren comes out on top. Andrew Johns Club career Team Matches Tries Goals Field Goals Points Newcastle Knights 1993-2007 249 80 917 22 2,176 World Club Challenge 2002 1 2 3 0 14 Warrington Wolves 2005 3 1 12 1 29 Representative career Team Matches Tries Goals Field Goals Points Country Origin 1995-1996, 2003 3 1 7 0 18 New South Wales 1995-2000, 2002-2003, 2005 23 4 37 4 94 Australia 1995-2003, 2005-2006 27 12 90 0 228 Representative honours • Test Matches - 20 (1995-4, 1996-2, 1997-1, 1998-3, 1999-1, 2000-1, 2001-4, 2002-1, 2003-1, 2005-2, 2006-1) - captained in 2 matches (2002-2003) • State Of Origin - captained in 6 matches (2002-2003) • Country Origin : 3 (1995, 1996, 2003) - captained in 1 match (2003) • World Cups : 1995 and 2000 (1995 World Cup Matches Counted as Test Matches. 2000 Matches did not) • Kangaroo tour : 2001 (All matches counted as Test Matches) Awards • Dally M winner : 3 (1998, 1999, 2002) • Provan-Summons Medal winner : 5 (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002) • Clive Churchill Medal : 1 (2001) • Player of the Series Australia v Great Britain 2001 • Most Valuable Player in 1995 World Cup • Rugby League Week's Player of the Year : 3 (1998, 1999, 2002) Darren Lockyer Club career Team Matches Tries Goals Field Goals Points Brisbane Broncos 1995-2009 300 113 341 17 1,151 Representative career Team Matches Tries Goals Field Goals Points Queensland Tri-Series 1997 2 1 0 2 Queensland 27 7 22 1 73 Australia Australia - Super League 37 4 33 2 64 2 2 1 196 13 Brisbane Broncos First Grade Debut v Eels Round 13, 1995 (Broncos won 60-14). Club Rookie of the Year 1995 Member of the 1997 Super League World Club Challenge winning Broncos side (Broncos defeated Hunter Mariners 36-12). Member of the 3rd Broncos Premiership Winning Team in 1997 (Broncos defeated Sharks 26-8, Lockyer scored 5 goals; 10 points). Most points in one season: 272 in 1998 Member of the 4th Broncos Premiership Winning Team in 1998 (Broncos defeated Bulldogs 38-12, Lockyer scored 5 goals; 10 points). Member of the 5th Broncos Premiership Winning Team in 2000 (Broncos defeated Roosters 14-6) Clive Churchill Medal Winner 2000 Club Player of the Year 2002,2003 Changed Position from Fullback to Five-Eighth at start of 2004 at request of Wayne Bennett Captain 2005-present Dally M. Medal Five-Eighth of the Year 2006 Dally M. Medal Representitive Player of the Year 2006 Highest Ever Brisbane Point-Scorer with 1,220 Club Points (as of End of 2007 Season) Club Best Back Award 2001,2002,2003,2006 Member of the 6th Broncos Premiership Winning Team in 2006 and also Captain (Broncos defeated Storm 15-8, Lockyer scored 2 goals and 1 field goal). Highest capped Broncos player Dally M. Medal Five-Eighth of the Year 2007 Queensland Maroons (Correct to 5 July 2007) Played in 27 State of Origin Games Man of the Match 3 times Captained in 13 State of Origin Games Wally Lewis Medal for player of the series, 2006 Part of the Series Winning Sides in 1998, 2001, 2006 and 2007 (also drawn series in 1999 and 2002) Captain of the Series Winning Sides in 2001, 2006 and 2007 Australian Kangaroos 37 Test Matches for Australia Played in 4 test matches during the 1997 Super League Season (2 tries; 2 goals; 1 field goal; 13 points) Australian Kangaroos Captain 2003-present (20 of his 36 games as captain) 27 Tries 2nd Highest Kangaroos try-Scorer behind Ken Irvine (33 tries). 9 World Cup Matches for Australia 2 Tries and 4 Goals in World Cup Matches Golden Boot Award for International Player of the Year 2003 Golden Boot Award for International Player of the Year 2006 In fact, if DL keeps going the way he has been, there is at least an argument that could be made that he would go down as one of the greatest league players we have ever seen. Not only has he dominated for his club, state and country, he has done it for longer than Johns and he has done it over two different positions. He also has not been tainted by drugs as was Johns. What do you all think? [/QUOTE]
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