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Message: [QUOTE="Big Pete, post: 2777560, member: 1899"] Credit where it's due, they've both had strong seasons. However, I don't think it's ever been so black and white. Outside of a few extremists, Hook was perceived as a solid if not boring coach who simply didn't have it in him to lead a team to premiership glory. He's done a fair job at Penrith, but I can't say their form is that surprising. Despite their efforts in 2015, a lot of people were shocked that Cleary was shown the door because they knew Penrith had the talent to be a finals side. Meanwhile we've seen this all before with Sticky. He made the most of a crappy hand, but one season doesn't make a tenure. Matt Elliott achieved similar success at Penrith, look at how well things turned out for him. [/QUOTE]

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