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Message: [QUOTE="Kimlo, post: 3010042, member: 2021"] You're arguing against a position I never made. If she pushed me out of the womb and threw me to the wolves, then I'd rightly have no care for her. If my mother suddenly fell into a spiral of bullshit I wouldn't abandon her because it was bad for me, I would stand by her all the way even to my own detriment. You can call it short sighted all you want, but that's who I am. It's not entirely relevant, but my father after marriage got severe seizures which eventually caused him to be disabled and could no longer work, my mother had to work multiple jobs as well as take care of me and my 5 siblings and often would secretly cry herself to sleep because she wouldn't have money for basic stuff like school uniform and would take out loans just to get us to school and have the bare essentials. There's nothing she could do that would make me abandon her now, I owe everything I have to the platform she provided for me to her own detriment without ever complaining about it once. Now I don't know what Haas' story is but he has his reasons to be loyal to his mother and I won't question them. The club can disagree, some members on BHQ can disagree, but I for one fully agree with what he did for all of the reasons I've stated in this thread. You can even argue his actions were misguided but his intentions, IMO, were absolutely in the right place and I refuse to hold that against him. [/QUOTE]

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