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Message: [QUOTE="Coxy, post: 2196251, member: 1764"] My point is, has, and always will be that skill is only about 20% of what makes a great footballer. It's attitude, on and off the field, winning and losing etc that defines them. Alf was as potent in a side being beaten convincingly as he was in a team flogging their opposition. He was instrumental, he was inspirational, and he was a great leader. Johns would disappear if the game was gone, he would chuck massive hissyfits at teammates who fucked up, and was generally a dick off the field. I couldn't give a shit that he could land a banana kick on a 50c piece, or throw a 50 metre cut out pass to his winger. He was a douche on and off the field, and his overall record in teams that proves it. Only 2 premierships in a star studded side at his and its peak. Alf had a star packed side too, but converted that to 4 premierships in 7 seasons at his peak. Langer > Johns. /argument [/QUOTE]

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