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Message: [QUOTE="Flutterby, post: 2290091, member: 1853"] FWIW I don't think that the players KNEW of the systematic cheating, but probably had an inkling/suspicion something was probably dodgy. I heard a former trainer at the Storm say on the radio yesterday he would sometimes stand on the training field, look around and wonder how they could keep all the worth of talent together under the cap (then just shrug it off and get on with things). Players aren't that stupid, many of them must have done the same thing - they would know what they personally would be getting paid and based on that be able to make some fair assumptions on the type of money their team-mates would be getting paid - and would have on occassion looked around the training paddock and wonder how they could keep everyone together under the cap, but then would have shrugged it off, not asked any questions and just got on with training/playing. Ergo - if you don't ask, you don't know. On the signing of the second contracts - sure they would have signed them and believed Waldron when he said they would be sent off to the NRL no problems. The players don't get a copy of the contract back with an NRL "Registered" stamp on it or anything, so they would have no idea if the club didn't lodge it. With regards to knowing what payments they were getting - well I agree with AP that most people don't keep a really close eye on their accounts. I don't keep a mega-close eye on them, but I know the weekly amount of my pay and even just a cursory glance once in a while would tell me if it was unexpectedly more - same thing goes for if another amount money gets paid into my account that I wasn't expecting. This goes back to them believing the second contact detailing the full amount of their payments and where they were coming from was above board - they would have expected all of those amounts, but not necessarily have known the NRL didn't expect them to get those payments. On the tax issue - Coxy is correct, it doesn't matter who actually prepared the tax return the individual is 100% responsible for it so if it's dodgy the Tax Office will prosecute the individual (the individual may also take action against the accountant or whoever). Finally, usually the more people who are in on a dodgy scheme the greater the chances it will come out sooner rather than later. And agree that players who have been forced to leave the club, if they knew about it, they would have blown the whistle - cause they would have been thinking "well you're cheating the cap to keep everyone else, why not me? Screw you Melbourne Storm." [/QUOTE]

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