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Message: [QUOTE="Coxy, post: 2203668, member: 1764"] Absolutely! And while some of the players aren't much older (and definitely no more mature) than those doey eyed and/or pissed teenage groupies, many of them, like Johns, are. And it's the behaviour of those guys, guys who should know better and respect their responsibilities to their families and to the game more who are the ones that cause the likes of Telstra to re-think pouring millions of dollars into the game each year. Whispers have already started that Telstra won't continue their sponsorship in light of the negative press over the past few years. And before someone repeats the subject of this thread and blames the reporters - don't shoot the messenger. The players are the ones that are guilty. They're the ones fucking up and giving these guys ammunition. We need to stop making excuses for them (they're just dumb footballers, you can't expect any more from them), start educating them, start drumming into them what the consequences can and will be and get them to sort their shit out. If it means being hard line, and that some of the players who really want to be fucking idiots go and play some other sport in some other country - good bye, have a good one, try not to catch a disease... As Gallop said, if they want to do this stuff, don't play rugby league at the highest level. OXY: I'm not doubting they're out there. But the fact is how can you be sure that wide eyed, big titted young woman who offers group sex isn't going to get an attack of the guilts and make a fuss about it after the fact? Who has more to lose? The woman, or the players? Until the players get it through their incredibly thick skulls that they stand to lose far more than an orgy is worth they're going to keep getting in trouble. [/QUOTE]

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