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Message: [QUOTE="WASSHHH, post: 3145186, member: 9424"] Not sure I’m the one missing anything here. If you go back and look over the conversation, you will see that I am not fundamentally disagreeing with you, what I am saying is that we can actually do something about giving away stupid penalties (and the 2 players I’ve mentioned seem to have stupid penalties in them more than most (every team has them)). But we simply cannot do anything except whinge to the NRL about not receiving enough penalties (but, as I said, the outcome of that is not within our control - nor is it likely to really, truly achieve anything either). The result of giving away less penalties is a smaller gap between penalties received and penalties conceded. I’m not sure how I can make that any clearer. Regardless, the fact remains, this is not the reason we are losing. Sure, sometimes it sucks and you may feel like it was all the refs fault (and certainly, sometimes they seem to be doing their best to make a win impossible). But, winners find a way to win, losers find excuses. EDIT: should have said, I am not saying you’re a loser 🤪. But hard edge teams don’t allow excuses for losses, they go away and get better. We are not a hard edged team, haven’t been for far too long either. [/QUOTE]

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