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Message: [QUOTE="McHunt, post: 3276819, member: 9853"] In terms of a sausage factory, I can't think of anyone in the last few years who entered our system and emerged a better player. Maybe Fifita, but it's hard to attribute that to Seibold's coaching. I can think of a lot who started well and went downhill. Coates said as much: that he'd learn more under Bellamy than Walters, or within the Storm system rather than the Broncos. Fucking ouch. Walter's blase reaction to Walsh's brilliant trial debut for me was the early canary in the coal mine. He stuck out like dog's balls and absolutely demanded the fullback role game one. We all saw it. The Warriors saw it, but Walters didn't. **** me dead. Used to be an incentive that players would want to come to Brisbane to better their game, increase their value. Now they see the likes of Milford arrive a star and (presumably) leave a wreck. It makes you wonder how good Payne and Pangai would be if they were properly coached, and surrounded by properly coached support. We are now down to debasing ourselves for the fish John West is rejecting. And worse, we're expecting these players to rescue us. [/QUOTE]

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