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Message: [QUOTE="Jason Simmons, post: 2763326, member: 8275"] They may have recognised it, but if so, then their pack isn't the only thing that needs work, their recruitment obviously does too, as 3 of the 5 recruited forwards (including Kennedy) that we have intended to fill that hole have been punted for being less than useful in their envisaged roles within a season, two at most. As to not needing a big bopper to be successful, I disagree. When have we ever won a premiership without at least one or preferrably two or more? We haven't period. Now premiership success isn't the 'only' measure of success but it is by far the most reliable and visible and the fact is there hasn't been a team that has won the premiership with a pack built on backrowers in the decade since we won ours, built by the by, via an engine room of Shane Webcke, Petero Civoniceva, with Ben Hannant off the bench and prop sized second rowers in Brad Thorn and Sam Thaiday... Just the relevant stats for our starting packs from our last premiership to now for some perspective... 2006: Webcke - 183cms, 111kgs. Civo - 193cms, 116kgs. Berro - 178cms, 87kgs. Thorne - 196cms, 119kgs. Sammi - 181cms, 111kgs. Tunza - 186cms, 103kgs. Pack weight - 647kgs. 2016: Blair - 188cms, 108kgs. McGuire - 180cms, 106kgs. McCullough - 186cms, 91kgs. Glenn - 181cms, 100kgs. Gillett - 187cms, 101kgs. Cozza - 188cms, 102kgs. Pack weight - 608kgs. [/QUOTE]

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