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Message: [QUOTE="Jason Simmons, post: 2770637, member: 8275"] Potentially but then we don't know why such was applied so it is difficult to say. Perhaps James himself was choking someone we just don't know. I just saw someone earlier say a choke hold is illegal and my point is purely that it isn't. Not by itself. Only if the force used in executing it is disproportionate in the circumstances at hand just as any sort of force is when one is defending oneself or ones place or acting under the authority of one whose place it is, if it is excessive. [/QUOTE]

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