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Message: [QUOTE="Porthoz, post: 2604089, member: 2221"] [b]Re: ben barba/josh hoffman[/b] Bile is the right word indeed and 127th isn't nearly enough. Get back to me when we're talking 4 figures... You want fact? Hoggman is the worst 5/8 in the NRL's history, period. I would have fucking McCrone ahead of him! Strasser may have been in poor form, and may even have been lucky to avoid FOGS, but I still think he would do better than Josh at 5/8, because at least he can pass and kick. As long as they're physically able to handle it, the best of the (possibly crappy) lot would get the job as far as I'm concerned. It's really as simple as that! Any comparison with Granville is pure nonsense, as Granville actually has a very good hooker covering him for the position. That cannot be said for our 5/8. Yes, of course it's all hypothetical, but it's hardly rocket science to think that a player with some vision and playmaking talent, even if still raw, would come good (as in... way better than Hoggman), if persevered with in the same way as Griffin has done with Josh. Simply put, I don't think it's easy to do worse than Hoggman in that position. For what he does, we might as well put a backrower in there... he will run as hard, tackle better and will more than likely be capable of actually hitting a team mate with a pass. Of course, we're now reaching the business end of the season, so there is no longer a point in giving a kid a shot when Milford is already lined-up for next season, which is why Hodges is the only realistic option at this point, unless someone like Strasser or Nichols really put their hand up. Even then, it would have to be very soon. The least guilty of all this is Josh really. He actually believes this crap about being a capable playmaker, and Griffin is just enabling him... [/QUOTE]

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