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Message: [QUOTE="BroncsFan, post: 3700126, member: 9052"] It would be interesting to know what happened at souths, but I think what is different nowadays, or at least should be different, is that players know what it takes to be successful and one of the main things is being fit as fuuuuuck. Melbourne and Penrith are the benchmarks of the comp and if you as a player don't think that they're getting absolutely flogged every preseason, then you are kidding yourself and may as well find somewhere to play some flashy comfy footy. It would be harder and harder to find a club not getting flogged during preseason, because of how important it is and the amount of coaches that are coming out of the Bellamy coaching school and now Cleary... Robinson is probably in that boat as well, but his teams haven't necessarily been able to compete with Melbourne and Penrith in recent times, despite having stellar rosters. I don't even know if Madge will be the make or break component for us anyway... I think it will be the mindset of the leadership group. Melbourne are the team they are because of the leadership group they've had since Bellamy started... they want success and if you aren't serious about that, then you're out on your ass. Penrith are the same and they have to be to win 4 in a row... what is there to play for each year other than just wanting to keep on winning. If Madge can show these guys a gameplan and pathway to success and premiership success then I think guys like Patty, Haas and Reece will be absolutely loving his coaching. They are so competitive and wanting success, whilst also putting in the hard yards that they will end up as the leadership group the club gets built around. I'm thinking the fallout with Souths must've been the leadership group... they let the standards slip down there and then blamed it on being coached too hard. Since then they have been up and down and have only played their best under Wayne, who is a man manager that knows how to get his team up mentally.... but looking at their squad they don't look like a team that Madge would be able to take over at this moment... are they serious enough about their footy to dig in year after year. Broncos are potentially similar as a club, but hopefully the leaders coming through are strong enough to set the standards and drag the young guys up to those standards with the end goal of winning and being a powerhouse successful footy team that competes every year for premierships. [/QUOTE]

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