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Message: [QUOTE="fenomeno, post: 2102322, member: 1805"] I agree with most of the stuff you say, but you gotta take into account that Kobe still has a lot of time to achieve a lot more, so don't have to compare things like finals and mvp awards, i think everyone knows that by now, Kobe deserved to have 3 mvp's to his name, but i won't worry about that, since he hasn't got them. But he's got time on his side, he's already got 3 rings, might get a 4th this year, that leaves him with another good 5 chances to win more. Having one of the best rebounders in history in Rodman helps immensely. Pippen was so good that when Jordan retired for the first time, Pippen won MVP, He also had the best 3 point shooter in history in Steve Kerr. The Bulls team in 95 is said by many to be one of the best teams ever. I just can't agree that Shaq was far more influential then some of MJ's team mates. Yes Jordan was a great defender, better then Kobe, but Kobe is a brilliant defender himself, and Phil Jackson has said in his opinion, Kobe's a better ball handler and shooter then MJ so yeah. By the time Kobe retires, not many would hesitate to say he was as good as Jordan. [/QUOTE]

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