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Message: [QUOTE="mitch222, post: 2659063, member: 8605"] Considering Cassell has started games at other teams, yeah he is 10 wins better then Painter who has done SFA in the NFL. Your knock on Brady is that he is successful because he has a successful structure around him and that pretty much anyone could succeed at NE at QB whereas Manning has had to do it all is absolute bullshit. Brady is one of the greatest quarterbacks to play the game (even the experts agree here) and he leads his team to success every year. When their defence was absolute rubbish, he found enough points to win, when he had an offensive line that pretty much any other qb in the league would struggle with, he found enough points to win. I rate the broncos recievers that manning has had over the couple of years better than what Brady has had. He pretty much only has one out and out superstar (Gronk) to throw to whereas Manning has had multiple include Thomas, Sanders, Welker, & Decker. [/QUOTE]

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