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Message: [QUOTE="Organix, post: 3503458, member: 8187"] But that is not true, because having Australian/NZ tier footballers or fringe in your team does not mean you can't get a spoon. Broncos have shown that the last few years with Haas and Coates. To say that they get selected on performance is also dependent on the team as a whole, as Oates and Fifita will attest. So, Redcliffe having players that have had representative players in the past, may again have representative players based on team performance. Sometimes they are fringe players because they have lost a passion, or are not marketable. It takes a good coach to unlock their talents and their effort. That is where WB is a huge factor. Furthermore, basing your argument on which tier country of representative football they play is quite unfair. Choosing to play for Samoa or Tonga over New Zealand is a personal choice, and quite a noble one at that. It allows those lesser tier countries to improve. Does that mean that they are not at a representative level were they available for New Zealand or Australia? Milford, no, Isaako, probably, Staggs, definitely, for example. That is true. They have put in huge efforts, and the talent that is there has been unlocked to a good extent. [/QUOTE]

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