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Message: [QUOTE="Anonymous person, post: 2470840, member: 2115"] more often than not slater saves the try if he gets there in time, even from shoulder charges. also, if you cant see the difference in effectiveness from launching your 90kg frame shoulder-first into someone versus leading with your arms in a last ditch sprinting across field attempt to save a try, then i may as well not even bother finishing this conversation. you get a lot more force from using your shoulder than your arms. lol. so what i say is irrational, but your absolute of: "A shoulder charge is never going to cost a game" is completely rational? pull the other one mate. [/QUOTE]

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