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Message: [QUOTE="Anonymous person, post: 2474193, member: 2115"] the thing im saying though is that you cant say he didnt attempt to tackle him, because he had his arm stretched out as if to wrap around him - he cant help it if the guy he hits goes flying. same way inglis' one in the all stars match was let go because he had his arm out and it touched the player. also what im saying is that why do they even mention the tucking of the arm if that actually has nothing to do with what they consider a shoulder charge? if all that matters is the shoulder-first contact and no actual 'grab' of the player straight after the contact, why do they mention the arm tuck? look i think that if they are outlawing the shoulder charge then it should be penalised, no doubt. what im getting at is that their definition of a shoulder charge, like nearly every other stupid rule in the nrl, leaves a very big grey area that is open to various interpretations. [/QUOTE]

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