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Message: [QUOTE="Big Pete, post: 2742423, member: 1899"] [b]Re: NRL Player Movements and Rumours 2016[/b] Even so, Lyon's career has had it's share of controversy. A fantastic career by anyone's measure, and yet it still felt as if he underachieved. I suppose he did it all on his own terms, and Manly fans would appreciate his loyalty but he essentially took himself out of any non-Manly 'all-time' discussions by virtue of taking himself out of the representative scene. His unwillingness to represent his state and country hindered his standing in the game and caused a lot of people involved in the game to second guess his talents. It probably cost him hundreds of thousands, if not millions in terms of rep payments and third party deals. I suppose you really can't take the Wee Waa out of the guy. It's a shame because not only was he the best club centre from 2009-2014, he was a Top 10 club player around that time as well. When Ben Kennedy retired, there seemed to be a lot of conjecture surrounding Manly's future and their ability to win a premiership. Enter Jamie Lyon and suddenly the Sea Eagles had the missing piece of their premiership puzzle. It probably took Lyon awhile to adjust to the different standards and the conditioning required but once he did there was no looking back. He was a class above, even at five-eighth and I'd dare say without him Manly end up being the bridesmaids on both occasions. Perhaps the biggest testament is the impact he had on the players outside of him. David Williams went from a forgotten reserve grade player at Parramatta to an Australian Test player almost overnight. I'd dare say anyone who played outside of him around that time improved tremendously and they owe some of their biggest career highlights to the man himself. I don't think he's going to go down as a fan favourite like Ettingshausen or O'Connor but even his harshest critics had to admit the guy could play footy. [/QUOTE]

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