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Message: [QUOTE="Kimlo, post: 2694030, member: 2021"] I didn't state they did something as a fact. That's what I wrote, I didn't say they were definitely guilty, I did, based on reports of video evidence by a police officer, give my view on what punishment should be handed out and why. As for my second post, that was still not me saying they committed the act as a fact, that was me responding to your argument on a year ban being too high, if we're already discussing the punishment, then I'm not going to start every sentence with an "if" and "allegedly" when they've had strong evidence against them, and the club where the incident took place has already banned them for a year, meaning they've got solid evidence to do so. [/QUOTE]

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