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Message: [QUOTE="Foordy, post: 2709605, member: 1769"] the anti-doping rules don't say that you can dope as long as you pretend not to know what you are taking. they flat out state that players are responsible for knowing exactly what they are taking. it is their responsibility. and even if it is true that they were naive or gullible or what ever else you want to call it (and i for one don't beleive that they were that stupid as to not know they were doing something wrong) it still doesn't mean they get a 95% discount on their penalty for leniency. stalling the investigation and denying, denying, denying before pleading guilty = 3 week suspension co-operating the entire time and pleading guilty = 4 year suspension. that is a joke [/QUOTE]

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