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Message: [QUOTE="holdzy, post: 2900172, member: 9001"] No one[I] here[/I] has said Hayne did it, or that they think Hayne did it as far as I know. But several people come out and said 'probably just a drunk skank making shit up'...or supported the notion. I wouldn't put too much stock in the supposed trial by socia media anyway, but as much as there is a culture looking to make victims out of everybody and be outraged by proxy, there is also a culture of dismissing and trivialising sexual abuse. I think people in general, men and women, need to realise an intoxicated person can't give consent. Obviously, we have a huge alcohol problem in this country, and as a species in general. But getting a woman drunk in order to get her to say yes is an age old strategy, and it's pretty fucked. [/QUOTE]

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