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Message: [QUOTE="JayPee, post: 3622994, member: 9256"] He tried to change the culture as soon as he got there but he got push back!! Thats why he isn't apparently "liked". They don't want to work hard. That is the problem. The culture was like this before he even arrived. I don't want to speak ill of the guy that was here for obvious reason beforehand but there was things going on right throughout the club that were horrible. 1 city team. They think they are all celebrities. Players were recruited in to change it. Before he was signed and after he was. Alot of them have been the wrong guys. Payten wears some of that but he has tried to change the culture. Its obvious its not working. But I push back on saying anybody other than the guys I mentioned are going to change it. They are trying to weed out some of the problems bit it isnt a short term fix. This goes back years. I don't want to go backwards by getting in the same kind of coach to have the same problems. Because Im sorry Payten has done alot of good things despite what others say. Alot of these young guys have flourished under him. Guys that were no world beaters as juniors. I thought the year that we ended up in the prelim we would win the wooden spoon. I didn't see any of the young guys being this good or any kind of future. Now there is. But you have to get rid of the bad apples and get the right mix. I think they are trying to do that. A few that have recently gone I believe is a step in the right direction and Im pretty sure they are trying to move another couple of guys that are issues. Two for very different reasons but it is delicate. If you are going to move on from Payten you have to be certain that the guy you get to be the next coach is better than the guy you have. [/QUOTE]

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