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Message: [QUOTE="Porthoz, post: 2510852, member: 2221"] We are clearly on opposite poles Renegade, starting with the fact that you seem willing to forgo ethics and morals to win, while I don't. Please don't take offense, as this is for argument's sake, not a dig at you; but I'm sure the people behind the salary rorting at the Dogs and Storm thought that way too when they started pushing the boundaries. I value the Broncos fabric and culture dearly, and with me, most sponsors and persons of relevance and influence to the club and NRL. It really matters more than the occasional premiership! Your mantra of "no end result" meaning there were no moves or serious attempts, is fundamentally wrong. It's akin to say that because there is no cure for cancer, there hasn't been serious research done to find it; except that they can actually announce what, how and when they are doing something. You assume that no results means no effort, and thus the management at Red Hill is amateur at best, or as you call it... "inept". Just over a year ago, we were sitting pretty on the ladder, having won 7 from 8 with a very similar team to what we have now. Did you know then that we would be in this position today? I mean did you really see it coming? I on the other hand, assume that based on everything management has done outside of recruitment, such as the tangible results expanding our reach or exponentially increasing the membership numbers, shows amongst other things, that they are professionals doing a good job. It's not faith, it's common sense! I don't factually know what their efforts were to attract this or that player, although the information I have about a few of them (and this is not from "The Mole"), is nothing remotely close to: "asked him once and said welp can’t afford that!". I seriously don't know where you get this from: I honestly believe they should have identified those deficiencies earlier than they did, but where have you seen them talking a lot about anything recruitment, besides saying they are actively looking for a playmaker who will make a difference. On the contrary, they do not discuss in the media what they do and don't, which imo, is good business practice. It will amongst other things, allow informal contacts with certain players who are not legally allowed to be approached, without those players having to worry too much about those conversations appearing the next day on the Couriermail for example... Fact is, since it became clear we need a good playmaker, given Norman's attitude, and the fact he is (thankfully) moving on, and that Hunt doesn't and won't cut it, none of the worthy targets has moved on to another club. Inglis was well before that and let's just agree to disagree about Dugan, because we're clearly worlds away regarding the Broncos decision to shut the door. Your Thurston to Penrith example is based on nothing but media speculation, and none of the other players left their club. You may say the Dragons are actually doing something about it. Yeah, they are ensuring their future is better than now, but won't go beyond average. I say this because I have seen Widdop and Williams play, and while investing $800K or $900K on the pair might improve our situation, they are simply not the solution we need to become a genuine premiership threat. [B]More importantly, it would effectively cripple our capacity to get a real top player![/B] When a player of Barba or Smith's quality moves on to a different club and we fail to get him, I will think differently, until then... Let's agree to disagree! :winky: [/QUOTE]

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