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Message: [QUOTE="Porthoz, post: 2510875, member: 2221"] I never said it was the same thing, you're ignoring the bit about "starting to push the boundaries". Both do require lack of ethics and morals to a certain extent. As to Dugan, it's very simple really. It's not about the offense, which in itself wasn't anything out of this world, but about when and under which circumstances the offense occurred, making me believe that Dugan cannot be trusted to use his brain or keep his promises. [/QUOTE]

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