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Message: [QUOTE="Skathen, post: 3407365, member: 8789"] Agreed, this is the core point of the problem that some are not capturing. 2 weeks ago - people were happy with Payne's contribution, if anything, he's very well paid for what he does. 750K and more in the coming seasons for a prop that consistently achieves good meters and plays big minutes is a fair and equitable transaction. Payne flips the table on that demanding a mil a year or the club can go get fucked. So, people start analysing, what WOULD a $1mil prop, in a top 8 side look like? Nothing like that exists or has ever existed, so what would it take, to move the needle THAT far? The value proposition needs to make sense, hence the wave of comparisons to what he does NOT bring to the table, therefore trying to find where the value is here to make that additional player's wage consumption worth it to the team and the club. A prop, doing prop things, is not going to produce value for money at a mil a year. So what can this player do, beyond prop things, to make up for that value? THAT is the point of contention. The two closest comparison players are JT13 and Fifi. Both are barnstorming runners who score points or set them up. Both are good at offloading, breaking tackles, getting line breaks and offloading to backs. One could also call into question if either of these were smart decisions for clubs who've had to work around their hefty salaries, probably to the detriment of the club. Fifi's is certainly a poison pill for GC - they are tanking hard now. Cowboys have had a mixed basket from JT13. [/QUOTE]

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