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Message: [QUOTE="Skathen, post: 3405286, member: 8789"] Problem is, he's a headstrong kid, with the wrong people in his ear. This was a 36,000 strong reality check. I have no doubt the flogs in his life will use this to put even more pressure on him, it's what gaslighters do, but if there's any hope of reality hitting him, tonight was the night. The one galling thing through all this is the ex-player commentators and players sympathise with him to a degree (for the most part, there are obvious exceptions) - but when they go on about the players they totally forget the fans and the clubs. Why should giving Payne an upgrade probably cost us keeping Cobbo for example. The club loses. The fans lose too. If this club is going to regain ascendency, players MUST accept unders, that's literally the only way you build and maintain a strong club. No forward is worth 1m, today, if you want to win a prem. They get you down the field, they might even pull out a good offload, but they rarely are the difference between a great season and a crap one, end of story. Tino was the best forward on ground tonight and their team ended up being soundly beaten in the end because they didn't defend well and their halves are shit. [/QUOTE]

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