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Message: [QUOTE="The Fisherman, post: 3214279, member: 11513"] You were obviously raised by good people abashii, and I take your point to some extent, however I know guys that were shat by crows and hatched by the sun and left to fend for themselves, and they still manage to have respect for others and know what is and isn't acceptable, but to all intents and purposes you are correct, we are generally products of our environment, the whole apology thing is just a PR stunt and Payne Haas knows it, whether or not suspension is going to help I am not so sure now, besides if my employer said to me, listen you are suspended for six weeks on full pay, I probably would spend it fishing and not see it as a punishment. [/QUOTE]

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