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Message: [QUOTE="Huge, post: 3184096, member: 1992"] Excellent, you make my point so well! I'll quote you here: "Exactly, you can't say it did or didn't, because there is no way to really know just how much the performance was enhanced or not" I agree wholeheartedly! So, the Sharks and Essendon cheated but we cannot tell if they derived any benefit from their actions. Certainly the scoreboard doesn't indicate a benefit but the fact they cheated and were punished is not disputed. As always the events of 2011 have no bearing on Gallens game performances prior to 2011. This being my point from the start. He was considered a machine many years earlier. [/QUOTE]

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