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Message: [QUOTE="Morkel, post: 3185627, member: 8215"] Plenty of players have played a couple of Origin games but not been considered Elite. 2011 those two were on another level to what they'd previously achieved, and very quickly declined. Try to spin it how you like, that was the general consensus at the time within the admittedly small Online League community. They're not the only players to hit a purple patch, but they are two players that hit that patch smack bang in the middle of the period where they were using PED's. I'd be using the same arguments if it ever came out that players like Tim Grant, RCG, etc were on the juice for a short while, I would believe it because they are others that improved immensely almost overnight and then after a season or two dropped right back down (though RCG isn't going that bad at the moment to be fair). [/QUOTE]

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