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Message: [QUOTE="Organix, post: 3159371, member: 8187"] Classic! Anyway, is our appeal really an excuse for poor border management? When the slogan for the current government was "Stop the boats!", the irony of the Ruby Princess should not be lost here. At the end of the day, they still prevented people coming in (albeit on a smaller scale) and had lockdown for an appropriate time without having to impose heavy fines or overly authoritarian measures and are now back to normalcy. Australia could have easily been at the same point by now. I am surprised there are as many cases as there currently are. Look at Australia vs Austria, for example. Austria was one of the first hit and has soft borders and has a similar number of total cases and only twice the number of deaths. That says quite a lot, IMO. Most of those deaths occurred during April and May, after the surprise of the initial wave. Australia is now suffering a large spike in deaths, which is strange, but possibly due to the complacency of recent weeks and the inability to maintain restrictions for a long period of time. Plus it is winter in Oz... [/QUOTE]

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