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Message: [QUOTE="BroncsFan, post: 3686236, member: 9052"] I think the talk about Haas in origin is a bit much... he's played 14 origin games now and he's never had a seriously dominant performance like he did last series. One of the criticisms has been his inability to dominate at that level compared to Patty who came in and owned it from his first series. I think credit should go towards Madge for getting him up to play that way rather than anything about Kev holding him back. Madge had the NSW team actually giving a shit about origin for once, which you could tell from the way everyone was talking. That is what I'm interested in, because it shows man management as well as the known technical footy knowledge... rather than being one or the other. In regards to Kevvie... I think Payne probably played his best footy at club land under Kevvie and showed the most development he's had through the ball playing that was added to his game and he's developed an offload. There is far more that can still be added to his game, but he's been playing since 2018 and under many coaches now, and Madge and Kevvie are the ones that have probably got the most out of him that hasn't just been his natural athleticism. [/QUOTE]

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