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Message: [QUOTE="Anonymous person, post: 2342098, member: 2115"] thats great, but im asking why you believe that. if you cant back up your beliefs/opinions, dont mention them. why do you think Carney doesnt deserve it, given that he was the standout half of the year and was awarded player of the year? why doesnt he deserve it over someone who hadnt played for 3 months before the 4 nations, and even when he was playing, wasnt playing to the standard of Carney? Dally M means shit all. Should Matt Orford or Preston Campbell have been selected in the Australian sides on recent years?[/quote:1xtg7duz] yes. Incumbency is a stupid, stupid thing in rugby league when it comes to rep matches, because the length of time between matches means what happened 12 months ago has no effect on whats going on now. who gives a $hit if you 'got the job done' 12 months ago? does that mean youre the best man for the job now? in sports like rugby union incumbency is an ok thing because they play matches every month basically. players actually get in 'form' for their country. in league, theres no such thing as 'international form', because you only play a game every 6 months if youre lucky. [/QUOTE]

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