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Message: [QUOTE="Big Pete, post: 2342478, member: 1899"] Different kettle off fish in regard to Folau, Inglis and Thurston. When Folau made his debut two incumbants were injured (Hodges and Tate) and King's departure to the Super League made him unavailable. Even then, the players Folau was replacing were hardly 50 game veterens. Not really sure what the circumstances were with Inglis, but it wouldn't surprise me to hear if his incumbant Tahu was injured. The other winger, Grothe jr., was a one game test player (against France of all teams). Again, apples and oranges. (or in my case fresh water and sea water) Then Thurston took the place of Gower and Barrett who both played apart in the losing Tri Nations in 05 when he made his debut in the May Test, then the representative retirement of Johns left the position vacant. Even then, he was no sure thing, I mean even Hornby displaced him at one point (if you ever wondered why Australia sacked Stuart, just watch this game...seriously one of the worst coaching performances I've ever seen). So again, nothing like the Carney/Lockyer equation. Lockyer is fit and healthy and over the past seven seasons has proved he still has what it takes to guide Australia to victory. Carney on the other hand has only had one season where he's kept his nose cleaned and played well consistently. He's been rightly awarded a place in the Australian squad, but to say he deserves the No. 6 after only half a seasons great work of playing there over seven seasons of good work is absurd. [/QUOTE]

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