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Message: [QUOTE="Morkel, post: 3457977, member: 8215"] I am still clinging to the belief that Cleary is a manufactured superstar. Still very good, but nowhere near the best player in the game, like some experts try to claim. If his team isn't being carried by the refs he is quality, but nothing close to Cronk, JT, Lockyer etc. He dominates in games where his team has repeated field position and pressure, and the opposition is off their feet due to the allowances Cleary's team is given. [/QUOTE]

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